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Prairie Home Companion Premiere Today

Garrison Keillor, Robert Altman, Kevin Kline, Lindsay Lohan, Virginia Madsen, John C Reilly, Meryl Streep and Lily Tomlin will be carried in horse drawn carriages led by the Highland Park Senior High marching band down Wabasha St. at about 6:10 or so. [movie trailer, official site]

Reader Comments

It's great that we're having a premiere of such a big-name movie at one of our many downtown St. Paul cinemas.

Oh wait, St. Paul doesn't actually have a movie theater anymore.

Finally Lindsay Lohan is back in town so MNspeak can devote threads to her again instead of blathering about suburbs and political ideologies!

LL is probably like 'ugh, god, when can I go back to LA?'

which is fine, the sooner she leaves the better.

It is rather difficult to get heroin here.

I hope they let me work the red carpet and totally do it Daily Show style tonight.

"And you are....?"

"Can someone get this girl a burger?"

"What was Charles Nelson Reilly really like?

"Weren't you on Cheers? I hated that show."

Jason, your confusing the Daily Show style with Star Jones style I belive.

But to juxtapose the Star Jones, with the self-important local news delivery... that would be magical!

I think Star Jones is going to be looking for a job, better watch out Jason, she's lean, she's mean and she's gunning for a reporting job in the Midwest!

LL looked kinda cute in the previews.

"Can someone get this girl a burger?"

So she can fatten up like the rest of the country?

This is the midwest! Fat&pale is how they come!

Can we get a wall of proud Prairie Ho Companion shirt owners to line the block between 5th and Exchange?

My roommates and I were speculating whether or not LL could eat an entire order at the Uptown Diner. We think she could not, but we'd like to watch her try! And since we live a few steps away, we'd let her use our toilet afterwards.

Yummy!

Jason, are you really covering the premiere tonight? If you're going to, might stick around and we can use your 'CCO pass to try and get in to the premiere. Also, if anyone else wants to help me get into the event, send me an email.

I can't eat an entire order at the Uptown Diner. The Tex Mex is bigger than my head.

How about the biscuits and gravy? Two biscuits and two eggs over an entire plate of hashbrowns? Holy crap!

Yes, but is the Uptown Diner burger bigger than John C Reilly's head?

There's something really embarrassing about this (the celebs in horsedrawn carriages parading down the street with a marching band).

Star Jones is living proof you can't diet away ugly!

What happened to the good old days of MNspeak where we had exclusive Lindsay Lohan photos? Let's re-live those days tomorrow with new ones.

It's not too late to Ex-Lax the horses!

Hey Aaron, are you going to the premiere?

Oo, looks like drinking with Ian is going, too. This might be the best party of this week.

How will we know which one is the horse's ass and which one is Keillor?

When I get into the premiere tonight, I'm going to shake Garrison's hand. I respect much of his work. Then I'm going trade dirty jokes with Bob Altman. It's going to be great.

Hey Aaron, are you going to the premiere?

I don't have a ticket... and I wasn't planning on just waving at someone being drawn by a horse....

...but if Ian and Taylor will be trying to crash it...

I think I might be able to help with that. I'll consider. I'll have to cancel my boring plans first.

-Aaron

I'll go! I wanna chit-chat with Keillor!

I want to mett Lindsey Lohan, because she's got some big-ass ... well, you know.

By the way, how do you get to the Mett?

Aaron, if DeRusha doesn't get back to me in the next two hours about the two of us covering the event, then we should go hang out with Ian.

Not sure what I'm covering: I'm still at home. I'll know around 2:30 or 3pm.

I think I finally figured it out!

90% of the people that comment on here want to be famous!

If I'm near someone famous I will therefore by proxy be famous!

Bah your all losers with identity issues! Your self esteem shouldn't be based on contact with celebrities.

Oh wait...this is more like US Magazine with words instead of pictures.

No...that's not quite right...Dwell with porn and Lindsey Lohan? I'm getting closer!

Wait a minute... was that from Simpleton or from the king of the one liner, bud jr.??

I don't want to be famous. I'm a mathematician, fer chrissake! If I'd had any desire to be famous I certainly went into the wrong field.

Mpls Simpleton-

I could argue about your "loser," "identity issues," "self esteem," and "be famous" jabs, but the thread doesn't need help going downhill and I'm comfortable enough to not need to defend myself.

I will ask though, Mpls Simpleton, do you have better plans this evening?

-Aaron

...because you should join us.

Word up. We should have a public party outside the premiere.

If being a dude who wants to fuck Lindsey Lohan gives me identity issues, we might as well give up on the human race.

Your self esteem shouldn't be based on contact with celebrities.

Define contact. Use yours truly and LL in an example, just so I have a context that is most meaningful and relevant. Thank you in advance.

maybe not identity issues, but bad taste for sure . . .

I'm actually going to Grumpy's for trivia with some friends.
None of them are famous.

Is this thread really going to devolve into "which celebrity is it okay to want to fuck?" Cuz if it is, I wanna get this over with and give Tina Fey a shout-out.

wait, will said pubic party outside premier involve public consumption of alcoholic bevvies?

because I mean, if so ...

(and yes, it was on purpose)

Fey? I'd hit that. Leave the cute glasses on.

And LL to Fey is one degree of seperation. Good job, Rex.

(Sarah knows this comment is coming even before it's on the page.)

There was day when you could Google "Tina Fey" and there were only five results, and my personal site was #1. I'm the original Tina Fey fan, and all the rest of you are poseurs.

(Identity crisis? What identity crisis? As you can see, I'm totally fine!)

Bah, Tina Feh. As one of the head writers on Saturday Night Live, she has a lot of explaining to do. And being sometimes funny during the news section does not excuse her from the endless mediocrity of the rest of the show.

That's it, Sparber, get yr gloves on. reX vs. maX.

BTW, the second-most-popular thread of all time (by pageviews) on MNspeak was when we published the first photos of Lohan on the set. I had forgotten how creepy Altman looks feeling up Lindsay.

We were also the first to publish the news that Paul Thomas Anderson was assistant directing the film.

Both got national press mentions.

The sins of SNL can't be pinned on Tina. If you listen to the commentary on Mr. Show, they blame the over-production of every aspect of the program.

well, maybe you redeemed yourself. i'm so very surprised you didn't say Scarlett

Can I change the topic? Has anyone here ever hooked up with someone on their "5 Get Outta Jail Free Card" list?

Wow...this even makes it clearer people are obsessed with celebrity!

Oh well, its can't be any worse then dreaming about winning the lottery.
But I rarely have to read about what people will do with the money when then win the lottery.

Scarlett is far more appealing than Skeletor (LL), no matter what C.J. has to say about her nose ring.

How dare you, Simpleton! I'm not obsessesd with celebrity -- I'm obsessed with hooking up!

Sorry, gotta run, Entertainment Tonight is on....

Can I change the topic? Has anyone here ever hooked up with someone on their "5 Get Outta Jail Free Card" list?

Wait, it's five now? All at once, I hope. Glee!

For Seinfeld, it was just one. But it seems popular mentions of the concept has upped it to five.

I think I finally figured it out!

90% of the people that comment on here want to be famous!

If I'm near someone famous I will therefore by proxy be famous!

Bah your all losers with identity issues! Your self esteem shouldn't be based on contact with celebrities.

Oh wait...this is more like US Magazine with words instead of pictures.

No...that's not quite right...Dwell with porn and Lindsey Lohan? I'm getting closer!

Well, smell you! Aren't you better than the rest of us slack-jawed yokels?

I'm currently auditioning for places on my get out jail free card. 5 openings ladies. That sounds dirtier than it is.

raises hand

It's the yokels that stand behind Matt Lauer on the Today show, holding signs about how great a hotdish they make in their South Dakota church basement, that I worry about low self-esteem.

I receive my self-worth by commenting on blogs.

The most fanous person I've ever hooked up with is me. Sure, I may be obscure here, but in Omaha I am a superstar!

what, praytell, is a 'get out of jail free card?'

The concept is that you essentially get one (or five!) famous people that you can hook up with, and your significant other can't be upset. And of course, s/he gets five too. It's from a Seinfeld episode that I actually never saw, but I like citing it.

It was also in an episode of Friends. Ross's was Isabella Rossellini, but, of course, when he actually met he he acted like such a spaz that there was no chance of a hook-up.

What are you all looking at? Friends was funny!

Oh hell. I think it's only an episode of Friends, and not an peisode of Seinfeld. I never could keep my neurotic laugh-track sit-coms straight.

It's not that he asted like a spaz. He had replaced her on his card... and then laminated it. E-gad. I have no idea why I know that.

Don't worry, Rex. In the end, all shows about neurotic Jewish New Yorkers end up being the same.

Neurotic Jewish New Yorker. It's like a triple-reduncancy.

(I kid! Stop hitting me, dad -- you moved out of Brownsville 45 years ago!)

The most fanous person I've ever hooked up with is me. Sure, I may be obscure here, but in Omaha I am a superstar!

I was in Omaha last weekend and I noticed the sign on the overpass on the I-480 bridge: Omaha, home of Warren Buffett, The College World Series, and Max Sparber

Why did I ever tell you about the small tags?

If Lindsay Lohan wasn't Lindsay Lohan she'd be just another very ordinary-looking girl (yes, GIRL, not woman) who wouldn't warrant a second look. That's the part I don't get. Same with Paris Hilton and most of the other gutter trash that passes for 'celebrity' these days. It's like a contest to see who can expose more flesh and get the most f'ed up in a club -- can't think of anything that could be more unattractive.

Give me Scarlett or Charlize... women who understand the difference between sexy and skank. The reason they don't get as much attention in the tabs is because they're not constantly making tragic asses of themselves.

PS: The rest of this thread speaks to the previous conversation about how obsessed Twin Citians are with pretending to be a big city. "Oooo, real live Hollywood celebrities are going to be here!" Good lord people. I'm sure CJ will get two weeks' worth of columns out of this.

Okay, got it. Lust after Scarlett because she's "sexy"; don't lust after Lindsay because she's "skanky."

What a weird world.

Hey, skanks are people too. They need lovin' just like the rest of us.

Could be worse Max. You could be from Council Bluffs.

Forget it, rex. Lust after any skank you want. (Most of us are doing the same thing; we're just quieter about it... in order to avoid public whipping. ANyhow, even Scarlett can get pretty skanked up from time to time.)

Hey, if you're into skanky -- knock yourself out. I'm just saying that IMO she's entirely ordinary-looking and if she weren't a celebrity she'd be just another one of those sloppy drunk chicks that you have to kind of push away before they barf on you at the club.

Scarlett, to me, comports herself in a way that elevates her sexiness far beyond her (ravishing) physical beauty.

I guess for me it's all about what you can't have. LL is portrayed in the tabs as a two-bit ho and therefore is entirely unappealing to me. Scarlett comes across as some lofty, unattainable goddess and that's what makes her hot.

YMMV of course -- to each their own. AND of course God only knows what these people are like in real life -- all we have to go on is what we see in the tabs. For all I know LL is a very kind, well-bred and intelligent young woman. But I kind of doubt it.

My five would all be friends of hers. I keep the list in my head, to avoid a LOT of trouble.

Lindsey Lohan?

Yum.

YAY Bud!

While everyone tries to put mildly intelligent commentary as to the reasons people do and do not find people attractive you are able to sum it up by just saying "Yum."

Okay, back on topic... roll call... Who's going to be there? I'm heading down there in a short bit.

Usually I'm loathe to defend Bud, but, in this case, "Yum" seems perfectly succinct.

Usually I'm loathe to defend Bud, but, in this case, "Yum" seems perfectly succinct.

Yeah, I guess I lose on this one. I can't seem to get mine any more succinct than "trailer park crack whore." Oh well -- have fun tonight y'all!

1) This entire conversation is a complete simulacra of our subconscious, and no one knows what any of these people are "really" like.

2) Nonetheless, I think that Lindsay is the young actress of today most likely to become the Meryl Streep of tomorrow. (Okay, maybe second to Natalie Portman.) And I'm definitely not the first person to say that. She's a 19-year-old girl who occasionally drinks too much (yet still much less than me at that age -- or now!). And I don't think you see her dressing "skanky" all that often if ever.

3) I'm not sure why I feel the necessity to stick up for her, since I sorta got in trouble for a t-shirt that may or may not have implied she was a 'ho'. Perhaps this is what tv pundits mean when they say we live in a time of deep contradiction.

4) If I saw Paris Hilton in a club and she weren't famous... I'd want to fuck her more than anyone else in the club, regardless of what she was wearing. But I'd go home feeling guilty that I didn't try to tap the girl with the glasses in the corner.

5) Wow, this is a weird conversation. I'm pretty sure I'm to blame.

Screw them all. I'll take Natalie Portman any day! And she's fabulous in or out of the tabs!

I'd tap the girl in the corner with the glasses, as I'm pretty sure that describes a lot of MnSpeakers, and I'm trying to score points with them.

Whoops. So much for my top secret scheme.

bring it on, msparber

I wish someone would point out the obvious: It's Rex who has gone to shit since leaving MNspeak, not the other way around.

This entire conversation is a complete simulacra of our subconscious.

If Rex is going to throw around simulacra (sic), I'm going to go all Latin on him and say res ipsa loquitur.

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(Congrats to those who get that joke.)

precisely

And I'm going to hit you with A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi, which, come to think of it, should be the MnSpeak motto.

Hey, the band Ipso Fact just showed up! What are you guys doing here?

I think it speaks for itself, rex... d'oh.

Did somebody call our name?

No.

All right then. Bye!

Nah, you're lost because you jumped into this thread in media res.

Facilis descensus Averno.

It ain't Latin, but what's funny is it's called Greek in the publishing biz.

This is Latin:

Pedicabo ego uos et irrumabo,
Aureli pathice et cinaede Furi,
qui me ex uersiculis meis putastis,
quod sunt molliculi, parum pudicum.
nam castum esse decet pium poetam
ipsum, uersiculos nihil necesse est;
qui tum denique habent salem ac leporem,
si sunt molliculi ac parum pudici,
et quod pruriat incitare possunt,
non dico pueris, sed his pilosis
qui duros nequeunt mouere lumbos.
uos, quod milia multa basiorum
legistis, male me marem putatis?
pedicabo ego uos et irrumabo.

And I'm going to hit you with A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi, which, come to think of it, should be the MnSpeak motto.

Since Tu Stultus Es was already taken by The Onion.

Actually, it sort of is Latin.

Sunt pueri pueri pueri puerilia tractant.

Sunt pueri pueri pueri puerilia tractant.

Don't you start with me, Bartel. Just cuz I went to a shitty state college doesn't mean I didn't take two years of Latin just so I could talk to you snotty Carleton brats at the bar.

Sunt pueri pueri pueri puerilia tractant.

Ooh, that would also be a good motto.

Wait -- what was the subject of this thread?

Max, it's a simulacrum of Latin.

I think Bartel also went to a Catholic high school run by Jesuits (Creighton Prep, no? God, what a memory I have!), so he probably grew up speaking Latin as a first laguage.

Me? I grew up speaking ebonics as some sort of bizarre social experiment on the part of my parents. A weak, wack-ass, rat-soup eating motherFUCKERof a social experiement.

Latin-ebonics... what a fascinating idea.

Lindsay Lohan squeals in Latin. Or so I heard.

That's hot.

Pueri pueri, pueri meritrices mactant, would be fitting for Rex, given the above discussion.

Another motto for mnspeak: Finis coronat opus.

I didn't study for a whole summer with Reginald Foster for nothing.

I'm out of Latin. Well, except for a tergo, but you have to be pretty special for me to use that one on you.

I just heard from BJ. He was thinking of coming back to MNSpeak, but was turned off by the Latin.

I have noticed that the number and quality of Syriac posts has really deteriorated since Rex left.

Syriac Man! You're back!

My personal favorite: bliteus belua es!

This thread is damn near as good as the one that started with people being fired in New York, veered through a Seattle traffic jam and ended up on The Wiggles.

And I thought the philosopher pun thread was masturbatory.

It's probably too late at this point to ex-lax the horses. Damn.

Nonetheless, I think that Lindsay is the young actress of today most likely to become the Meryl Streep of tomorrow. (Okay, maybe second to Natalie Portman.)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I can't believe you just said that! Now I have to take some points away from you. Damnit!

My Meryl Streep of Tomorrow vote goes to Kate Winslet. She makes good movie choices and good character choices, and is intelligent to boot. Lindsay, on the other hand - god, Lindsay defies description.

That's like saying Springsteen is the next Dylan. Kate Winslet is already too established.... Kate Winslet is the next Kate Winslet. The rules of this game should state that you can't pick anyone with more than a couple lead roles.

So now here's where you say Keira Knightley. Or if you're particularly snappy, try picking someone from TV, such as Kristen Bell (Veronica Mars) or Kate Moennig (The L Word).

views from the parade

That's like saying Springsteen is the next Dylan.
Okay - that's fair. My revised vote is Claire Danes.

So now here's where you say Keira Knightley.
Nope - I cannadoit cap'n. I've only ever seen her play three roles: Attractive; Feisty; and Attractively Feisty.

Or if you're particularly snappy, try picking someone from TV.
Ah, TV. I have one of those. It has bunny ears attached that don't work all too well, so I usually just scrap the idea of watching it because it's too much effort (the TV mainly exists for my Netflix fix).

Why are some of ya hatin' on Lohan? She young, talented, famous, pretty, and she likes to out to clubs and party with her friends. So what?

At least today her skin doesn't look like the raw chicken leg Altman was feeling up.

Damn, those titties...

I was at the red carpet-- she looked great. I blogged a bit about it tonight. I expected her to be waif-like... but she looked pretty hot. So did Virginia Madsen... and so did Kevin Kline.

Damn you people. I work late and miss not only Lindsay Lohan's cracking curves, but a latin joke thread too?

I was at the A Prairie Home Companion Premiere as well, but didn't take any photos of Lindsay. I saw her briefly but that was about it. Didn't care much either. Taylor played it right and left when the stars showed up. The Minnesotan crowd was the real show.

-Aaron

So now here's where you say Keira Knightley. Or if you're particularly snappy, try picking someone from TV, such as Kristen Bell (Veronica Mars) or Kate Moennig (The L Word).

What, no love for Reese? I suppose the Oscar means she's even more established than Winslet now, but you could make the argument that she's not the Streep of tomorrow -- she's the Streep of today.

Also: La Lohan has her red hair back! There's hope for her yet.

After those pics (taken without the aid of magazine photoshopping), I think Dave should issue a retraction for this line: "If Lindsay Lohan wasn't Lindsay Lohan she'd be just another very ordinary-looking girl."

I saw WCCO at noon and Kare at 5 and 6.

Everyone lead with "the stars love us" validation. And then followed with a little more "we're really OK".

Awesome. I'm gonna sleep well tonight. And I might get a slice from Punch tomorrow.

And hopefully, the stars will love us tomorrow.

Are there any actual reviews of the, you now, actual movie?

My sources tell me that there's only two good things about this movie ... the same two things that hold up Ms. Lohan's costume.

It's funny when people become in indignant at idle celebrity talk. Wanna show that they're so much above such chatter.

After those pics (taken without the aid of magazine photoshopping), I think Dave should issue a retraction for this line: "If Lindsay Lohan wasn't Lindsay Lohan she'd be just another very ordinary-looking girl."

OK, you got me. Ordinary was too strong. She's obviously pretty. That said -- put her in a lineup with a dozen other random women on a typical Saturday night at, say, Bellanotte (ack!) and she still doesn't stand out, at least not to me. The only thing that makes her any more outstanding is her celebrity.

Again -- YMMV -- this is obviously very subjective stuff. To me, Charlize (or Scarlett) still kicks the s**t out of her.

Apparently the reviewer from The Economist loved it.

I am so far above such chatter I don't even know what these 'celebrities' you speak of are ... is it some new form of life that was born out of the pollutants of Los Angeles?

Bill Carlson seemed to like it - or he liked sitting near Meryl Streep, I can't remember.

I'll try to miss it.

OVERHEARD on the parade route...

***producer in carriage on cell phone - pitching A Prairie Home Companion 2: Scandinavians take Manhattan***

You see it's like... you know... 'Fargo' meets 'Home Alone 2: Lost in New York' -- we've already got William H Macy and Macauley Culkin to sign on. Mac's agent thinks this will be his big "comeback" and is ready to sign on for the whole trilogy.

OVERHEARD

Conversation continues...

but Altman and Keillor are being pains in the ass about the Taco Bell tie-in and the iPod product placement deal. So... shhhh they don't know it yet... we're going to get the guy who did "White Chicks" to do the follow-up screenplays... and Michael Bay ("The Rock", "Armaggedon") to direct. I've already talked to Bruckheimer about a reality TV show tie-in. He said Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie were interested...

Celebrity gossip columnist posts pic of Lohan from last night. Enjoy.

Rex, you gotta check out that link.

Yeah, I already did. I love the debate below it.

Since I'm feeling rather generous (despite my dislike for Ms. Lohan on many levels), here are some photos paired with hilarious fashion commentary by the wonderfully snarky ladies over at Go Fug Yourself; and all the gossip you could ever care to read about Li'Lo (with pictures, of course) at The Superficial. Enjoy.

Hey, I got an Idea! Since Public Radio is making movies, let's make a film on "This American Life," starring Tom Hanks. What could be more fun by listening to absolute babble and mind-drivel nonsense, paid by the American Taxpayer to state-run media. HA HA!!!

A Prairie Home Companion: Comming soon to a bedtime theatre near you! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

My buddy Jessica Nordell was on Weekend America this weekend talking about her gig as an extra on the movie (audio link).

More on Lohan in St. Paul (including the requisite Meryl Streep comparison) in the New York Times.

Those beautiful Shim Sham Shufflers make the cut for the trailer, but somehow didn't find themselves invited to the premiere in St. Paul. I say Garrison has done it again, alienated yet another great MN production.

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