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This week's issue of Newsweek has a feature on the top 12 things in the world of design. Numero uno on the list is the City of Minneapolis. Featured attractions include: the new Guthrie Theatre, the Central Library, the Walker, and the MIA.
Yeah! I have a pride boner.
A Gay Pride Boner?! Perfect weekend for it...
The L.A. Times gave a rave review for the new Guthrie.
That's so great that I have two boners!
Why impress them with substance when you can impress them with style? I still don't like the Walker addition or the new central library. Could Minneapolis possibly find more cost effective means of raising its profile (in a good way)?
We need a Chinatown.
Forget it, Max. It's Chinatown.
The walker looks like a happy face from the south and an angry face from the north, and everything else is sandstone. Yuk!
Maybe these buildings look better from planes.
The view from here?
Blech!
I'm always curious what the blindingly au courant cabal of design hatahs on this site actually enjoy in their architectural diet. Somehow, I'm betting it involves alabaster pillars. The avant garde of architecture, these critics likely contend, died when we couldn't advance beyond Doric, Corinthian, and Ionic.
But I won't begrudge this philistine rancor -- Modernism left a bad taste with everyone.
Anyway, I was extremely skeptical of the new Guthrie, but just 10 minutes of walking around it caused me to fall in love with a building. What a strange blend of Ikea colors, factory shapes, and non sequitur appendages. The new library was less enchanting, but intriguing in its own less mysterious way.
So, because Champs' personally doesn't like the Walker, we need to raise our profile other ways? Seems to me places like the Walker raise our profile by what goes on INSIDE their buildings too.
Although, when I look at that brutalist new MIA wing, I wonder why zillion-dollar Michael Graves was brought in to make something that a local firm could do much cheaper--and likely more tastefully. But that's just my opinion.
Classic Minnesotan: Minneapolis receives a #1 accolade from the country's largest weekly for something that's quite positive, and we go find some way to complain about it.
Truly classic.
We could trump Austin, TX as #1 independent music capitol of the world by SPIN magazine, and we'd start complaining about no smoking in bars.
Jeesh... (see? that's Lutheran for "Jesus!")
Rex is so knowledgable about pillars!
While I still have one giant throbbing boner for this great PR, my other boner lost some steam from this:
MINNEAPOLIS INSTITUTE OF ARTS: The city's great art museum just opened its new postmodern Target Wing (the retailer was a big donor) by Michael Graves, also a popular Target product designer.
Of the four buildings, I've been inside the Walker addition and seen the outside of the Guthrie and Central Library. I really like the outside of the Guthrie and the Walker. (Though, I often note to friends that the Walker cube does give the impression of the side profile of a humanoid robot.) And the Walker's interior has some really nice touches but not always the greatest flow.
Overall, I'm really happy Minneapolis has some nice modernist buildings like the Walker, Guthrie, and Weisman, but the Guthrie is the crown jewel. I'm looking forward to walking around the Guthrie on Sunday.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Walker is a scowling robot. What always amused me about it is that it's scowling across the street at a church! Modern art says "Take that, religion!"
The Guthrie is featured in Time, too.
I think the Guthrie looks like a fancy IKEA...or legos. I'm very intrigued by the huge phallic cantilever...pretty impressive.
The Walker is too much like the Weisman - all that silver is just blinding on sunny days.
But I LOVE the new library - Pelli is the best.
If you are really a architect buff you really need to read Devil in the White City. It's the story of the 1894 Chicago's world's fair. It has all the famous architects of the time in it (Burnham- Flatiron Building, Olmstead - Central Park, Sullivan - Frank L Wright mentor). It's quite amazing all the innovation that came out of that one event; the pledge of allegiance, AC electrical lighting, Ferris wheels, etc.
There is a architectural roundtable sponsored by the AIA at MPR this afternoon at 11:00. Free but you need to register though I'm guessing you could bust on in. http://www.aia-mn.org
Good modern architecture is exemplified by the Sydney Opera House -- its shape is beautiful, functional, expressive, and contextual. In Minneapolis, we settle for metal-clad arbitrary shapes.
Anyone else going to the Guthire open house on Sunday?
Anyone wanna take bets on how mundane and just like all the other stadiums the new Twins stadium will look?
Incidentally, I haven't gotten a good look at the Guthrie (although I liked the view shown by the article), and have absolutely no idea what the MIA addition looks like, even though it's closest to me.
And I'll elaborate on that metal-clad statement by saying that Minneapolitans like their architecture to look like their kitchen appliances.
The Walker and the Guthrie are at least attempts to galvanize the city with architecture. I find the latter more successful than the former.
the MIA, on the other hand (and the central library as well) are simply revolting buildings. The MIA actually performs the mortal sin of destroying Tange's wonderful original additon, while the library is almost ironic in it ur-minnesotan banality: squat, flat, sprawling with no center or relation to the street beyond bulk.
Yuck.
Devil in the White City is an amazing book...quite possibly one of the best nonfiction works I've ever read.
And on the Sydney Opera House...yes it's beautiful and stunning but actually the theatres inside are acoustically awful for opera (so I've been told). There's always something off with every magnificent design.
But aren't these additions just a long line of "improvements" to Minneapolis that will only get torn down in 40 years because they are "ugly"?
And while the streets are pretty barren after 6, compared to Minneapolis, St Paul has a much more beautiful downtown as far as streets and public areas are concerned. The sidewalks are clean, there are many trees, flowers, a PARK WITH A STREAM right downtown in front of Galtier Plaza, another park in front of the Ordway, etc. I really love the atmosphere around there. By contrast, Minneapolis seems to be backwards as far as all this is concerned.
In half a century we'll see these buildings being derided as ugly. The disposable architecture of downtown Minneapolis. About the only thing that seems to be left from before the 1940s is Marshall Field's, but even that is no longer Dayton's (and I'll cry when it turns into Macy's).
Kevin, the Twins ballpark won't aspire beyond the typical shopping mall aesthetic of most stadiums. It's not a new Soldier Field or New York Olympic Stadium.
I agree champs. The old Guthrie was greatest theatre in the country (according to the people continuously begging for money for it). Now that they have their new palace, no one seems to think the old one is of any value. As to the new Guthrie's color choice, it will be interesting how the color fades on the south facing surfaces. It probably wasn't designed to last more that a few decades anyway
Champs,
You're probably right. I hear the new Arizona stadium is amazing. I fear it will be mundane because it will have such a broad client base, aka fans, that trying to actually do something cool will just turn people off, so they dumb it down to the lowest common demoniantor and we get another cookie-cutter "retro" stadium. I think this proves an earlier comment that even when we get good things in Minnesota we can't help but to complain.
Incidentally, I've licked Soldier Field. It tastes fine. However, I think it looks awful from the outside. Looking up at it from the King Tut museum made me feel like an ant looking up at a cereal bowl.
I'm still chapped that no one seized on my proposed slogan for the MNSpeak t-shirts: "How big is your cantilever?"
I think chips makes a very good point, and it's something I've been sparring with someone recently about.
I don't understand the disdain mpls folks seem to have for saint paul. The downtown is a lot more cohesive and urbane than dt minneapolis, it just closes way way way too early. But the built environment is superior, hands down. The skyline, not so much, but at street level downtown saint paul is a much more pleasant place to be. Note how half of its downtown area is not/was not recently surface parking lots? Nice of minneapolis to tear down all its urban vitality (interesting historic anecdote: if you want to know where most of old downtown minneapolis is, it's buried under the quarry shopping centre). Shit, even the highway overpasses/viaducts in saint paul are nicer to look at and more pedestrian friendly than in minneapolis.
That said, I can't see myself living in saint paul anyway. Which is probably a part of the problem, because as attractive as the environment is, it's just really really dull at night, and it's hard to attract enough people to make it not dull when there's so little to offer them in the meantime.
So, because I have a bad habit of rambling on for too long, a summary!:
-attractive urban environs good, surface parking bad
-things to do after office hours good, urban tumbleweeds bad (consequently this is why I hate the skyway system, because nothing in it is open on weekends or after business hours, and I don't work downtown so feh to it)
-rambling on for too long not so good, summaries that become to long even worse
-trains good, cars bad (can't help myself)
I love St. Paul, but I'd like it more if that got rid of about half of the fucking Peanuts figures. Seriously, there's like seven per block.
I've been known to say that Minneapolis is my youth and St. Paul is my future.
Quinton Skinner's take on the new Guthrie.
Anyway, Sydney Opera House? Yeah, that's just about right: the 20th century's version of impenetrable classicism. Or to paraphrase Westerberg, "I hate postmodernism, it's got too many notes."
My feelings on the new buildings range from quiet appreciation (Library) to open disgust (MIA) to red hot lust (Guthrie).
As for St. Paul having a better downtown, don't believe it. St. Paul has got two high quality urban spaces (Rice Park and Mears Park) which are truly top notch, but the rest of it is utterly forgettable. And St. Paul has torn down just about as many of its historical buildings as Minneapolis has.
And don't get me started on the f'n Peanuts.
I'll concede the peanuts thing being hella annoying (I'm from CA, shut up), but even if they have torn things down, they actually seem to have replaced them with new buildings and not parking lots. Minneapolis DTE has a long way to go before it will be a decent urban environment. The gazillionaire's park and all the new condos are helping that along, but they'll need to remember street retail and other things to really make it nice. Also the impending demise of the metrodome might make for a good project to finally link downtown with cedar-riverside in a fluid and urban way.
I have to second chips and tmayhem's comments about DT St. Paul. Though, it is a smaller area than DT Minneapolis. Downtown does have parks like Loring, Elliot, and the River Front. They're just not in the core of DT.
While talking with coworker this week about DT Minneapolis, I made a connection that I hadn't before: the DT core is primarily a business district akin Wall St. in NYC. The financial district in NYC is pretty dead relative to the rest of the city outside of "normal business hours" - at least in my experience. Now, that doesn't explain why, say, the North Loop/Wharehouse District is pretty dead on weekend days.
Regardless, I'm very excited about the Guthrie by the River.
The warehouse district is empty because it's become a mostly homogenized 'entertainment district,' which suffers from the same issuse as a CBD only its busy time is at night.
I hate uptown, but that's the kind of urban vitality both downtowns could use.
I'm working with a guy who's got a 2BR in the Airye condos at Galtier Plaza. If I had that place, I could stand to live in St. Paul, with a view stretching from the Capitol to the river, and Mears Park right next door.
As a fellow non-driver, I'll have to respectfully disagree with tmayhem, when he says that he hates Uptown -- depending on the context. I hate most of the bars in Uptown, I hate how you can't walk half a block in any direction without getting panhandled, and most of the shops appeal to yuppie trash. However, I love the fact that I have convenient access to necessities, bus routes, and the Greenway. Downtown is still waiting for a Partial Foods Market (since they sell so many vitamins and supplements) to open up.
When is rex going to start speaking English?
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