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There was a dead teen found not far from my house a few hours ago. It was the top story on WCCO. On the riverbank in front of Minnehaha Academy [North Campus, High School]. That would be about where W. RiverRoad and the Lake Street bridge meet. The police say it was obviously homicide, and not accidental. The area will be closed in the morning, and into the afternoon possibly. So, any commuters who use the road, just be aware of that. Sad that a young person like that had to die. [Update: More on the murder.]

Reader Comments

That's my old neighborhood. I remember seeing the police pull a dead man out of the river. I thought that was messed up. This is sick. Perhaps the kid got into a scuffle with an enemy after school.

Reminiscent of two films from 1986...Life imitating art?
Murder
accident?

After reading the story and the part about the body being found by a camp I couldn't help but think about "Banging Camp" by The Hold Steady.

Wil Wheaton vs. Keanu Reeves? What a conundrum...

after seeing a dog shit in a park on my walk home from work i couldn't help but think of the song "Your Little Hoodrat Friend" by The Hold Steady.

Hold steady suck.

Word.

wait, near lake & W. River? Isn't there the railroad bridge there that kids love to go on to drink and get high? maybe he just fell off it.

After reading bud jr's comment I couldn't help but think about Abba's Dancing Queen.

I drove over the Lake street bridge last night at about 7:30 last night and I saw a cop car down on the river road with its headlights facing the trees/river. It was only one squad car though, so I though it was something minor. They must have either been just getting there or just leaving.

It's quite a ways downstream from the railroad bridge.

The police never say "this is obviously a homicide". They say things like:

"Whether the death of the 15- to 17-year-old was an accident, a homicide or something else wasn't clear when his body was found late Thursday."

- Lt. Greg Reinhardt, MPD spokesman

Please people, if nothing else, can't we all try to watch more CSI?

After reading bud jr's comment I couldn't help but think about what poor taste in music he has.

Still crackin' up over mac_tonight's hilarious sarcasm.... although I also think "Banging Camp" is one of the Top 10 best hard rock songs of all-times.

Knows his music.

Hold steady = over hyped nerd band

Buddha, please forgive me for this:

On this count, I have to agree with Bud Jr.

One convert at a time...

I agree, too. The Hold Steady is a crap rock-n-roll band.

Who would have thought bud jr is leading the Hipster Backlash.

I really don't think bud jr has established any sort of authority status on anything that doesnt deal with internet porn.

I call Hipster Backlash for my new band name!

The Hold Steady are a Bar Band not a rock-n-roll band!

BrianP you forgot your Ozark Mountain Daredevils album at my house last week.

Noone named Anything Jr. gets to lead any backlash.

For true anti-hipsterism, truck over to the Fine Line tonight and see Hookers & Blow play the finest covers ever. And don't be drinking any damned hipster PBR while you're there.

They're a crap bar band, too. And uncool as well.

Hookers and Blow are good times. I think they'd agree that they put the "crap" in "crap bar band."

Speaking of (lower case) hookers & blow, the word on the street is that the pre-opening for Diva's Gentlemen's Club in the warehouse district has been postponed due to their lack of an elevator permit. Sounds like club 3 Degrees might actually have G-d on their side after all.

Also, if you want a fix of electroclash tongue-in-cheek euro-gay-disco rawk tonight, check out these suave gents from Detroit @ 1st Ave . They may be waaaay past their sell-by date, but Gay Bar & Danger, High Voltage are still great experienced live, and like Jerry Lewis, they love' em in Eurpoe

I've never heard Hookers & Blow, but I love the name.

I believe H&B still play Gluek's every thursday nite.

The kid was Trevor Marsh, he was found dead. Shot in the head.

Hey Pro-lifers! How come your not on the streets of Minneapolis, protesting this shit, regarding a 17 year old male kid, who got killed by an unknown murder in a public park in the last day or so? Presumably, I thought being a compassion consertative was to perserve the meaning of human life, but since you christian evangentical maggots out there are more concern about people like Terri Schavio or Pat Roberston's corrupt diamond company in Africa, it's often more likely that you clowns don't care what's going on in the inner city and its rising crime problem within the community. Boy, talk about your selective moral outrage, right Cons? After all, you can't deal with minorties and inner city white folks because they are all liberal. Right, right?!

ugh.

Spellcheck. That's MY new band name!

I knew Trevor Marsh well, and have hung out with him at that same spot. There is no way this was anything other than a murder, he was a happy kid and wouldn't have given up without a fight. which leads me to believe he was surprised by someone who was with him he hangs out there often so it had to be someone he didn't feel threatened by or they wouldn't be there and he wouldn't be off guard. Trevor was a GD (Ganster Disciple) and owned an abbundance of firearms, so a possibe scenario was someone looking at one of his guns and robbing him for all the other ones, but i know he wouldn't give anything up. so they killed him. also his crew had just bought a 'trap house' (a house to sell drugs out of) in the area, and just that same day he was showing me pictures of it and told me he was keeping all his weapons their. He had nineteen guns including an ak47 an many pistols. I don't think the people he was renting the house with were his friends so another possible scenario is he was hanging out with them and they saw the potential for profit from selling almost twenty expensive weapons fetching 200-500 dollars each. they siezed the oppertunity and shot him in the head. and just like that took controll of all his guns. I'm hoping the police find the bastards that did this
RIP Trevor Marsh

man, fuck all this talk about 'dog shit makes me think of songs. '

a kid died here.

knew this guy since grade school... peace to his family

what are u ppl talking about, trevor never owned guns, he was never gd folks, the kid wasnt a fighter, he was a true friend but he sure wasnt a fighter. he would never own guns, although im sure he would boast as though he did own them, but thats just the way the kid was, wanted to impress everyone... ive faught along side the kid in numerous fights. But one thing was always the same, he never faught, even when we werent out numbered. i've almost got this figured out, im narrowing it down, my suspect is a kid that goes to washburn, whom i'm choosing to leave they're name out of it, and i know a chick who knows who did it but she wont talk. you ppl read this and think wow sucks to be him, but in reality, sooner or later its gonna be, sucks to be you. if u havent noticed crime is on an uprising, with no sign of dropping. 2 out of every 5 crimes in minneapolis dont even get investigated, seriously what is that? to me, this is just another reason to take the law into our own hands.

RIP Trevor Robert Marsh, we will never forget you

I weep for literacy.

Oh, and Matt, unless I misread the tortured English, Justin Warrington in the above post is making oblique threats to commit criminal acts against an unnamed Washburn kid in retaliation for Trevor's killing.

once again, heads know not what they speak about

fact:
trevor did have heat

and fact:
trevor was folks. quite literally until his death... i watched his homeboys leak tears as they threw up GD on the urn... he wasnt mearly their acquaintence.

oh and justin - that "take the law into our own hands shit " youre thinkin about is probably the same thing goin through the head of the cat who popped trevor.

just a thought.........

Trevor did have guns I had seen him with um showin them of to me, he wasnt gd I heard him say that but anyone who knew trevor knew he liked to talk and talk alot,He was a good friend of mine I hung out with him alot at friends and at the shithole,I never knew trevor was only 17,beging a fine of as a female I am though he just said that to seem older more mature and I ve known him about 3 yrs an I though he was 19 16 when I met him. He didnt sell guns he could hook u up with one if you needed it and yah he had a few.And trevor certinaly didnt do drugs I have seen them offed and refued infront trusted friends I talkin people trevs knew since grade school.He was a good guy sweet,fun,and Ill never forget them crystal blue eyes that just lit up the room..Even if he did talk to impress he was a great guy and fun to be with,and ill miss him,I hope whoever did this gets whats comin Karma hurts like a monther fucker

Alright here's for all you can get it straight. Trevor did have guns, he claimed to be GD, thats why he got shot (With his own gun). It was a horrible, terrible, cold hearted thing, yeah, but thats what happened. How do I Know? I was.... Well Im not sure what my rights are right now, so I won't finish that, but peep this. That kid gave me his last beer that night, out of sheer kindness, and thats real, and will play on my mind and heart forever now. I saw his head fall to the ground... his feet were touching mine... One Love forever now.

I just wish I could tell his parents how sorry I am...

Sincerely,

M.C.

PS. Im not sure If I should have even posted this, but if it means anything, It shouldn't have happened, he was a good guy in my book.

First of all, I'm starting my own gang. I will call it "English, muthafucka, do you speak it?"

Second, the Trib is saying 4 arrests have been made today. Quite the collection of cowards. Including some guy hiding in Omaha (probably Boystown), and a 25 year old guy (probably a pedophile...who the hell wanted to hang out with 15 year olds when they were out of high school (I mean ALS)?).

RIP. Thanks to all of you for your great contributions to society in the next 50 years.

Some of you people posting about how well you knew Trevor is pretty fckin questionable. (Justin)

Four people are in custody for involvement in the slaying of Minneapolis high school student Trevor Marsh last fall, police said today.

A 16-year-old boy was charged Friday with one count of crime committed for benefit of a gang and one count of second-degree murder. He was arrested Wednesday in Omaha. His extradition is pending.

Also in custody are two adults and a 15-year-old boy. All were arrested Wednesday. George Martin Boleo (a k a George Martin Neiss), 25, is charged with crime committed for benefit of a gang and one count of accomplice after the fact. He is in the Hennepin County Jail on $250,000 bail.

Tia Marie Dropick, 28, is charged with being an accomplice after the fact. She is also in the county jail on $250,000 bail.

The 15-year-old boy is in the County Juvenile Detention Center. Charges against him are pending.

Shortly before 5:30 p.m. on Oct. 26, Marsh was found shot to death near the bank of the Mississippi River in south Minneapolis. The body was in an area along a dirt foot path near E. 32nd Street and W. River Parkway.


P.S.
Who is this fool bringing diamonds in Africa into the discussion?

I assumed it was you, anonymous.

damn, the teen arrested is travis something, he went to south,
raine was a gd. george was gd the girl is the older sister of some girl who goes to south. i knew travis and raine a little. and trevor.
thats some punk asz s_hit. there gonna rot in jail.

Wow. If anyone wants a quick study in how weird the internet is, one need not look further than this thread. When your parents ask, "So what's this posting thing you do?" this would be an interesting thread to serve up.

To review:
1. A teenager is found dead on the banks of the river.
2. We segue into songs the murder reminds us of.
3. A quick fly-by of music criticism.
4. A posting from an "actual teenager" with firsthand knowledge of the murder.
5. We chastise the butchering of the English language.
6. MNspeak briefly becomes a community place of storytelling for Minneapolis teens.
7. No more mention of the murdered teenager.

I wonder how the Hold Steady will feel when a Google search turns up their involvement with a dead teen. I'm not intending this as criticism necessarily, but simply a really baffled response to a strange conversation about a murdered child.

because you're all so ignorant.

My brother messed up i know but trevor messed up even more by bein a false claimer but ya'll jus need ta quit disrespecting my brother

What is a gd anyway?

Never mind, I looked it up. Gangster Disciples.

RiP trevor....i miss science class with him and him always coming in late and sitting behind me! Trevor would never sit in his assigned seat bc he wanted to sit right behind me and then while the teacher was giving his morning lessons trevor would sit and talk to me, no matter how many times the teacher would warn him. He was just a really sweet friendly young man. i remember riding the bus home with him and he'd still be talking to me! He had alot on his mind, and it's a shame he had to go so quick, and the way he did. yeah i knew the chick who went to south too and her lil sister and i couldn't beleive that all along she had something to do with it! i was so worried trevor would be forgotten and the criminals in this case would never get caught. They did and i hope they get life in prison for taking away such an important person off this earth. Love ya Trev

So you gonna say Trevs messed up,All he wanted to do Is have people like him thats why he even invited george there anyways my friend was down there to that day and was questioned and everything but I never would have though a folk killed trev why waste a bullet on trev why not on a lord or blood why trev,cause trev wanted every one to like him this shits fucked up,Peace Trev I wish you would have came up with ? I wish thing could have been different But most of all I hope they all get to have many years to spend in the pen especially that bitch cause I heard she came to the funeral.I know them spending time in jail could never bring trevor back but it will assure me we got sum cold muther fuckers of the streets.God had more plans and greater uses for you with him more than you could have ever posibally been needed here for.So enjoy youre eternal peace you are now home to stay.And watch over Youre Family and friends which Ii know youre doing right now.

guess it's just a sign o the times?

At home there are seventeen-year-old boys
And their idea of fun
Is being in a gang called The Disciples
High on crack, totin' a machine gun

Check it out I'm a GD 2 if any1's got sumin ta say about that say it

794 IGD LLL WKU MMM PPP IGD
7414 2 15 19 i don't see whats wrong wit being affiliated wit a gang MPD is a gang FBI is 2 Theyy got there codes we got our's SO NOW WHAT YA'LL GOT TA SAY ABOUT THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like Nateek I find this discussion strange; I also find this strangeness offensive. Weeping for literacy is certainly in order--not literacy in the sense of correct spelling, but in the sense of being able to interpret the context of a conversation and respond appropriately. In this sense the MNSpeak regulars have shown far less literacy than those they would callously deride, through ill-timed pedantry and pointless doggerel. You're talking with a bunch of kids traumatized by the senseless death of their friend and classmate. Show a little maturity and give the topic the gravity it deserves.

Seeing as Trevor Marsh was 17, which would make his classmates upperclassmen at high school, I find their inability to communicate in even rudimentary written English quite troubling. This thread was not established as a memorial for Mr. Marsh, and while I have sympathy for the pain his death must have caused friends and family, that sympathy does not close this thread to other discussions.

I think the whore and Travis are each getting atleast 5 years for aiding and abbetting after the fact. Raine should get alot like 20-life or 15-life. cause its second degree. these cocksuckers are going to rot in hell for killing their friend. and Trevors real friends are gonna kill whoever gets out. RIP
p.s. Trevor, I left you a message on your phone. and I was blowed on dro at your funeral, in your honor.

Oops, I guess Andrew Collins is right. These kids are so traumatized that they had to get blowed on dro at a funeral. Shame on us for not respecting the communal expressions of grief that include open threats of violence and endless ruminating about whether Trevor was a gangbanger and if he had guns or not.

I bow to your greater sense of literacy, Mr. Collins.

Anyway, I think it is pretty clear that the people who knew Trevor don't care much what a bunch of white belted Minneapolis hipsters think about the Hold Steady or their reading skills; they're not talking to us, they're talking around us.

Replying to Thizz'Mo 's message

Alright here's for all you can get it straight. Trevor did have guns, he claimed to be GD, thats why he got shot (With his own gun). It was a horrible, terrible, cold hearted thing, yeah, but thats what happened. How do I Know? I was.... Well Im not sure what my rights are right now, so I won't finish that, but peep this. That kid gave me his last beer that night, out of sheer kindness, and thats real, and will play on my mind and heart forever now. I saw his head fall to the ground... his feet were touching mine... One Love forever now.

I just wish I could tell his parents how sorry I am...

Sincerely,

M.C.

PS. Im not sure If I should have even posted this, but if it means anything, It shouldn't have happened, he was a good guy in my book.

I think if your telling the truth, then your involved in it which seems ovbious because of where you say " That kid gave me his last beer that night, out of sheer kindness, and thats real, and will play on my mind and heart forever now. I saw his head fall to the ground... his feet were touching mine..." that means you were there.. if u were lying, that makes u just as stupid as the kid who made the false claims. Not that i'm saying anything negative about him, just what he claimed was stupid.

Wow, you're truly a dreadful wretch msparber. Actually besides "the kids" and all, your typically idiotic, self-glorifying comments about a kid my little sister grew up with, who was shot on the ground I grew up on and played as a child, are offensive on a personal as well as social basis. "Talking around you" is simply the prerequisite of any comment that attempts to participate and in and fullfill this site's promise of a genuine "MNSpeak" and not simply to justify the compulsive tirades of opportunistic idlers (you). What is funny about this entire thread is the way MN "Speakers" seek to discredit the input of outsiders, whose very participation could fulfill the promise of the site itself.

It's patently absurd to be attempting to demand a certain discussion on this thread, and, when you don't get your way, to respond with crass insults and insist that other people are attempting to discredit input. If you think this thread should be some sort of hallowed ground where the bereaved go to place garlands, go ahead and email the site administrator and make your case, but do not presume to scold me for using this site as it was intended.

Your behavior here is simply bullying, and now it has turned abusive, and that hardly puts you in any position to make the rules.

the people who they BELIEVED did it were my best friends and if people hate them then they hate me too but for one trevour was what we called a false claimer he wasnt really gd im gd my friends are gd. its a lot of false claimers at south high so I advise youll to stop all of that cuz its not a game out here and no thats NOT A THREAT for youll snitches but understand that if he really owned so many fire-arms he wouldve had a spare one or something to try and pull. I met trevour and his talk about owning them sounded good I myself was going to purchase one from him but they never were present so no one was never convinced but I wouldve never excpect him to be killed maybe beat but gees I tought my them better then that everybody misses trevour but I miss the accussed cuz they rode wit me until the end I gave them thier nicknames yes me but honest to GOD (without the O) I had nothing to do wit it cuz if I was around I wouldve stopped them yes me if they even did it who did it? well anyways free RK & TF and george please some of do miss youll out here love Veezy.........

people keep talkin bad about raine and travis yeah thats there names since you guys want to repeatidly expose it well I dont appreciate the $hit not from anonymous or nobody see this is why people get hurt running their mouths about stuff they cant back up and grote u disrespecting gd you bout as wrong as trevor keep gd out your mouth and if I ever run into somebody name grote theres problems. and raine and travis dont have to be out cuz if I see somebody talkin about them in front of me ill be them for them Iwont let it ride I promise i wont so be careful what u say people please cuz life is serious out here and besides things u SAY could COST U UR LIFE sucks doesnt it I know he had a lot of friends I understand and I feel youll pain I ve been there but understand the purpose behind it youll dont understand but thats only because youll dont understand gd the gang trevor was under suspicion he would let everyone know his knowledge like yeah im gd I kno this and that and im from this place however if he knew about gd he would know ur nots suppost to exploit hes not post advertise his gang its for the whole world to know the letters gd buts its very sacred and he didnt do that as even many of u have said he TALKED to much....get it he was a prime example it couldve been someone else but it wasnt and it wasnt a game of any many miny moe
it was well we have poser and he thinks gd is a joke or anybody belongs. $hit fukk the world fukk life it can be a joke to whoever but gd is never takin lightly only to those who dont know bt now you know so take this as a learning experience and be prepared cuz I am and if ur downtalkin my innocent until proven guilty friends then please jus keep it on the computer cuz ur way more safer here and make up a nickname no one knows cuz ur real name or nickname is a link but never take this as a threat cuz lil veezy only makes promises but this is neither this is just how i feel we lost i admit "ur in the proximity of a murder and you get tooken into custody for it then not to much good can from that but i learn from my surrounding's mistakes which was getting taken into custody rk tf love Veezy....... you haters no longer exist and please dont put revenge on ur to do list my former trevor friends it would only be left because im right and thats GD til the world blow..even after folkin in space now

I knew Travis and Raine and they were some of the nicest and coolest people I knew, I claimed then as my brothers. They were always there for me when I needed them. And yea they made a mistake but after all that shit I heard about Trevor it seemed like it wuz comin to him no matter wut. STOP TALKIN SHIT ABOUT MY BROTHERS TOO U BITCHES, cuz u have no idea wut the fuck happened.

FR33 TR@ViS & R@iN3

FOREVER LOYAL UR SISTER GHOST

u know what? i do have a idea of what happend . i knew about trevor being killed about hour after it happened.from someone who saw the whole thing. and it was stupid trevor was not killed for false claiming he was killed cuz rain was drunk and he wanted his older brother and his friends to think he's a real ganster.

its a crazy world we live in.

and veezy u beezy ur boys are not innocent.

Look... I dont know trevor and i dont even stay in MN anymore. i stay in the atl. and raine and travis are my best friends we've known each other since middle school. And all yall hoes/bitches thats runnin yo mouth bout shit that yall dont know need to chill the fucc out. Yeah trevor was yall friend but raine and travis are mine. Anyone that knows raine knows that he aint gotta prove that hes hard to NO ONE!!! Everyone
knows that they dont play that shit, and if you cross the line with them they gone do wut eva to put you in yo place. Really, its just a sign of respect. It aint got nothin to do wit proven shit to anyone. Everyone knows wut raine is capable of, but he feels that if he let one nigga ride wit treatin him any kind a way he gone have to let everyone else slide. It has some to do wit pride, dignity, respect, and reputation.

u know what? i do have a idea of what happend . i knew about trevor being killed about hour after it happened.from someone who saw the whole thing. and it was stupid trevor was not killed for false claiming he was killed cuz rain was drunk and he wanted his older brother and his friends to think he's a real ganster.

its a crazy world we live in.

»» Submitted by .. at 4:03 PM on March 17

ok.... this is my reply to that..... Like i said before. Raine's older brothers and friends know that he's a real "gangster" so YOU need to stop runnin yo mouth about shiit you dont know. if anything trevor was killed for FALSE CLAIMING!!!! And i'm not in a gang, but i know a lot about the shiit. If you cant back up wut you claim and your not willin to die for that shiit then you are NOT suppose to get involve at all. Everyone keep sayin how nice of a kid Trevor was (this may be so) But he probably was hangin around the wrong crowd of people. AND HE IS THE ONE THAT TRIED TO PROVE THAT HE'S A REAL GANGSTER. And from wut i hear it was either Raine's life or Trevors. I would rather for no one to die. but thats life. and even more thats gang- related life

raines life or trevor's.l.ol. dam u don't know shit.

Good god, who let all the subliterates loose on mnspeak?

Funny how u say i dont know shit when i gotta call from raine soon as he got to omaha... and he told me the whole story... and just yesterday i gotta letter from him.... So DAMN u dont kno shit

"Good god, who let all the subliterates loose on mnspeak?"

People who thought it beneficial that posters who wanted to comment on significant social happenings, of which they had personal knowledge, didn't have to take a grammer test before their views were taken seriously.

On that note, pretty much every literate person knows that when you use "god" in the "good God" sequence, you're acknowledging the god, and it needs to be capitalized for internal consistency. So who let you use the interwebnets, huh? Minneapolis educators?

who the fucc ask for a spelling check, or a speach on grammar

Huh.

Actually, bobby_b, there's quite a few out there who don't capitalize "God" when they use it to express exasperation or other emotion...it's a way to symbolize that they acknowledge the word as a form of slang but also don't want to mix in all the religious connotations, specifically taking the Lord's name in vain. Also, when you leave out the "good" part of the original "good God" saying, it no longer necessarily infers that you are speaking in reference to or towards a spiritual being.

damn it is fucked up what happened.. but trevor fucked up, and ended up gettin fucked up... betcha hella people learned their lesson

fuck your pussy gang shit anyone that thinks there tough cause there in a gang are such pussys and a little school girl can kick there ass

i know them all well raine, travis, george and trevor and i know it wasnt suppose to happen the way it did it was an accident and its done and over with it so why wont u all just shut the fuck up about this whole thing let justice take its course and let trevors soul be rested how it is suppose to be everyone has ther own opion about trevor and how he was but all around he was a good and sweet kind hearted person so let him be. and for travis he is a good person too just was at the wrong place wrong time and he is payin for it now raine is just raine if u dont like him then u dont like him theres nothing to it and same with george so just drop this shit and let it take its course with all of them. and regardless of if they are in a gang or not i honestly dont think it is cause that it was some drunk shit probally so let it go let trevor rest in peace like he should and let the others go through there course without all yall arguing about what happened and who is a punk and who isnt leave it alone

they be out soon anyway so they gunna fuck all yall up. 9 7 4 14 bitchhh

ok look at it like this it is done and over with it was an accident and life goes on just like tupac says. but neways you all need to quit this arguing bout who is what and who is this cause yall must not no too much bout any of these guys cause if u did u wouldnt even be writin on here now would you be? nope i dont think so cause george raine and travis will read all this and hell ya they gonna be pissed off and what not and bout trevors friends or so called friends fuck yall he was a fake ass person and just lied all the time bout everything that came out his mouth so ya whatever

Trevor was IG not GD he was always flagged up w/ pink and black, he was there when travis got jumped in, so how could he be fake.
also, someone said if he had guns he would of pulled his, he did, and got shot with it. only he let them see it forst because they're supposed to be friends. and friends aren't supposed to kill eachother.

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