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St. Paul: The Other Twin City

Posted December 12, 2006

In August, Minneapolis decided it needed a face lift. Now St. Paul wants one, too. The city will pay a Nashville firm $76,000 to help polish its image. Planners hope to have a new slogan, logo, and marketing strategy in place by next May. Any ideas?

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St. Paul: You're less likely to be murdered here than in Minneapolis
»» Submitted by ono at 1:14 PM on December 12



isn't frogtown still pretty rough?
»» Submitted by sayin' at 1:19 PM on December 12



St. Paul: We've got hockey and a science museum.
»» Submitted by »»» MLH at 1:18 PM on December 12



I'd like to see who has more murders per capita. I seem to hear about shootings on St. Paul's East Side pretty frequently.

»» Submitted by grote at 1:21 PM on December 12



St. Paul has had 15 murders this year. Minneapolis has had 59. Population of St. Paul is 277,000, Minneapolis is 380,000.

So, St. Paul has .054 murders per 1000, Minneapolis has .155 per thousand, or about three times as many per capita.


»» Submitted by »»» TBartel at 1:32 PM on December 12



So I guess the difference is that shooters in Minneapolis have better aim?
»» Submitted by tmay at 1:40 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Remember us? Please?
»» Submitted by Slogan King at 1:42 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Civilization does not end when you cross the river!
»» Submitted by Sloganator at 1:42 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Come on down! Just not after 5pm, that's our bedtime.
»» Submitted by Slogarama at 1:43 PM on December 12



St. Paul: At dusk, there are more Snoopys in this city than people.
»» Submitted by »»» msparber at 1:44 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Grand Ave is nice, right? Guys? Right?
»» Submitted by Slogalicious at 1:45 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Let's pretend Midway never happened.
»» Submitted by Slogadan Milosevic at 1:46 PM on December 12



St. Paul: The other white meat....

St. Paul: The city of virtue to Minneapolis' sin.
»» Submitted by Blogging Teacher at 1:48 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Is it too late to be Pig's Eye?
»» Submitted by Sloganing Teacher at 1:49 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Ample Parking!

St. Paul: Just Like a Real City!

St. Paul: Designed by Drunken Irishmen, ya Shite!
»» Submitted by Saloth Sar at 1:50 PM on December 12



St. Paul: No, we're not in Wisconsin; we're your god damn capitol, you little shits.
»» Submitted by »»» msparber at 1:54 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Come get some Dome! (we've got two!)
»» Submitted by Slogganth Sar at 1:56 PM on December 12



Get Lost in St. Paul!
(because we don't number or alphabetize our fricking streets)

St. Paul: Gateway to Woodbury

Putting the "E" in 35E. St. Paul.

St. Paul: A River Runs Through It.

St. Paul: Minor League Baseball, Major League Egos




»» Submitted by »»» kwatt at 2:15 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Birthplace of the smoking ban
»» Submitted by »»» alamn at 2:27 PM on December 12



Actually smoking bans have been around in other more civilized parts of the country for a very long time. St Paul is a relative latecomer to the party. Plus didn't Minneapolis ban it before St. Paul?
»» Submitted by Big Tobacco at 2:43 PM on December 12



If Italy and Ireland can have country-wide smoking bans and not erupt in violence, ya'd think we could do it to.

St. Paul: Home of the Coney Island Bar and Other Assorted Anti-Smoking Crazies

St. Paul: North of West St. Paul, South of East St. Paul.
»» Submitted by Saloth Sar at 2:59 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Eventually You'll Have To
»» Submitted by Ahmad Rashad at 3:14 PM on December 12



St. Paul: St. Paul was better when Rex was in Mpls

Best thread ever. I want to print it and hang it on my wall.
»» Submitted by »»» moe at 3:22 PM on December 12



Actually smoking bans have been around in other more civilized parts of the country for a very long time. St Paul is a relative latecomer to the party. Plus didn't Minneapolis ban it before St. Paul?

If by more civilized parts of the country you mean "Moose Lake, MN," you are correct. However, if you open the link on my post you will see that the last big wave of Minnesota ordinances have their roots in an ordinance authored by St. Paul councilmember Dave Thune. His ordinance was passed twice, and vetoed twice by Mayor Randy Kelly, who later got a "message from the voters."

The next big wave started today in Carlton County. Watch for more in Lake, St. Louis, Olmsted counties and the City of Hutchinson.
»» Submitted by »»» alamn at 3:19 PM on December 12



didn't california ban smoking in bars&restaurants like ... more than ten or fifteen years ago?
»» Submitted by sayin' at 3:29 PM on December 12



Now, back to our subject:

Saint Paul: At night, the domes are bright

It's true. I work near the Capital and the Cathedral, and the sight of both illuminated at night is really beautiful.
»» Submitted by »»» alamn at 3:29 PM on December 12



HAHA keep the slogans comming guys!
»» Submitted by »»» mndude at 3:35 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Home of the Saints... and the sinners.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 3:44 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Enjoy a little backseat Nookie with your Pizza!

St. Paul: In a Pig's Eye!

St. Paul: Nobody Worth Killin' Here.

St. Paul: Minneapolis's Slutty Little Sister.

St. Paul: Too Drunk To Fuck!
»» Submitted by Raindog66 at 3:44 PM on December 12



Saint Paul: The Quietest Neighborhood in Minneapolis

Saint Paul: The East is Dead

Saint Paul: Figure Us Out

Saint Paul: Deathplace of Hip

Saint Paul: Bless You

Saint Paul: Snow White People

Saint Paul: The Smaller Campus of the University

»» Submitted by Bx at 3:22 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Ugliest Street Whores in America!
»» Submitted by Raindog66 at 3:53 PM on December 12



Oh my God Raindog, that is the best link ever. And Bx, you are a comedy genius.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 3:54 PM on December 12



St. Paul: It's a "twin" in the sense of Danny DeVito.
»» Submitted by Sloganopolis at 3:57 PM on December 12



St. Paul: More white belts per capita

St. Paul: Hipper than we look

St. Paul: We don't tear down our downtown
»» Submitted by »»» alamn at 3:54 PM on December 12



St. Paul: We only party when its really really cold
»» Submitted by »»» mndude at 4:02 PM on December 12



St. Paul: We don't party because we're really really old
»» Submitted by Slogaine for Men at 4:04 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Gateway to South St. Paul
»» Submitted by »»» matt at 4:11 PM on December 12



I don't know, Raindog, that one @ the bottom is pretty hot...hey, wait a minute the name is Jeremiah Isreal Wilson...is that really a dude?

»» Submitted by grote at 4:28 PM on December 12



St. Paul: My Mom says its cool!
»» Submitted by »»» DouglasG at 4:52 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Its mom says it's cool too!
»» Submitted by Slogamom at 4:53 PM on December 12



St. Paul: So boring even St. Jude has given up on us
»» Submitted by C.L. Cooley at 5:13 PM on December 12



I was totally going to post the St. Paul Prostitution link but raindog beat me to it. I love that site. It's actually really old. Like from the olden internets days. I think I started checking it out back in '94 or something.

St. Paul: Broadcasting Your Shame with Technology!

St. Paul: Our Squadcar Trunks are Indian-Free!

St. Paul: No Pain - No Gain!

»» Submitted by Saloth Sar at 5:20 PM on December 12



St. Paul - Journalist of the Jesus movement
»» Submitted by »»» imagreen at 5:45 PM on December 12



St. Paul: That much closer to New York City!
»» Submitted by »»» richg at 6:31 PM on December 12



St Paul: Don't bother--it's just like Europe.
(True story: A Minneapolis friend once worked for a company owned by Germans. A colleague came over from Germany to work with him for a few months. She brought a guidebook with her, to help her make enjoyable use of her free time. Our friend suggested that she visit Saint Paul. The book says not to bother, she told him. Its supposed to be just like Europe.)
»» Submitted by »»» eshaffer at 6:26 PM on December 12



Somehow my train of thought went:

Minneapolis

Mini-apple

Saint Paul

Mini-Paul

The guy who played Mini-Me now becomes Mini-Paul in the big city of Saint Paul, showing off the various landmarks in a dozen kitschy commercials replete with ultra-low camera angles.

Heh
»» Submitted by »»» mulad at 6:43 PM on December 12



...Actually, maybe he could be a mini-Paul Bunyan. That'd be funny. Kinda.
»» Submitted by »»» mulad at 6:47 PM on December 12



Why in the fuck does Saint Paul needs a facelift?! To whom? The Neo-cons that are coming to town in 08 for which they can throw a KKK hate party and a burning cross in the middle of a DFL town? GET REAL PEOPLE!!!! This is a scam to rip off the local taxpayers on a worthless PR program from city hall!
»» Submitted by Big G at 6:56 PM on December 12



eshaffer--I know some people who had moved here and were told St. Paul was "the Boston of the Midwest." They were from Boston, and I don't think they quite agreed.
»» Submitted by Elizabeth at 7:04 PM on December 12



C'mon St. Paulites, are we going to take this?

Yeah...I suppose we are. As long as it keeps those Minneapolis pricks on the other side of the river.
»» Submitted by B-Man at 8:21 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Gateway to Southern Minnesota
»» Submitted by The Rat at 8:45 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Home of the Medallion.
»» Submitted by The Rat at 8:48 PM on December 12



As long as it keeps those Minneapolis pricks on the other side of the river.

I met a woman on my bus (21 line) a couple years ago who swore to me that she'd never been to St. Paul. She was probably 70 years old and has lived in Minneapolis for 40 years. She said her son has encouraged her to go see it and she thought maybe some day she might.

She didn't seem crazy...
»» Submitted by »»» cjc at 9:22 PM on December 12



Boston of the midwest? Don't know the reason for that (lots of colleges? nice old buildings?) but I'm from Boston and greatly prefer St Paul to Minneapolis.
»» Submitted by Dennis at 9:51 PM on December 12



St. Paul: Best community boards money can buy!
»» Submitted by Jerry Trooien at 12:52 AM on December 12



St Paul: It's on the same side of the river as Nordeast.
»» Submitted by Mpls Simpleton at 9:07 AM on December 13



St. Paul: It's on the right side of the river!
»» Submitted by Sloga-I'm out of ideas at 11:11 AM on December 13



do you guys remember when we could tell the difference between big G and raindog?
»» Submitted by tmay at 11:14 AM on December 13



St. Paul: Straight roads are for wimps.

St. Paul: If you don't know where you're going, you shouldn't be here.

St. Paul: Come for the pizza, stay for the back seat action.

St. Paul: Even 81 year olds can get some lovin'
»» Submitted by »»» DouglasG at 11:27 AM on December 13



St. Paul: Coleman-approved.

St. Paul: Kinda smells like your grandmother's house.

St. Paul: We won't make you keep your booze in a paper bag.

St. Paul: Processing Minneapolis sewage for 150 years!

St. Paul: Oh dear god, I'm so alone...
»» Submitted by MunsingW at 11:34 AM on December 13



do you guys remember when we could tell the difference between big G and raindog?

Just because someone USES CAPS does not put the in MY CLASS.

You FASCIST PIG DOG tmay....
»» Submitted by Raindog66 at 11:53 AM on December 13



(Yawn) typical envy and jealousy from Minneapolitans...
»» Submitted by Henry Hormann at 12:02 PM on December 13



MunsingW's "St. Paul: Oh dear god, I'm so alone..." is my fave so far.
»» Submitted by »»» eshaffer at 12:53 PM on December 13



typical envy and jealousy from Minneapolitans

I'm a St Paulite. I kid because I love...
»» Submitted by »»» DouglasG at 1:27 PM on December 13



This is one of the funniest threads I've read in awhile.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 1:49 PM on December 13



What happens in St Paul, stays in St Paul. Theoretically speaking.
»» Submitted by Jim at 1:49 PM on December 13



St. Paul: My Favorite Suburb!




»» Submitted by The Zeppelin at 3:55 PM on December 13



Boston of the midwest? Don't know the reason for that (lots of colleges? nice old buildings?) but I'm from Boston and greatly prefer St Paul to Minneapolis.
The Irish people dude....

Um

St. Paul: "Where liberal elitists gather to bitch about stuff."

»» Submitted by baker at 4:12 PM on December 13



Isn't it strange that the majority of highly valued residential property in St. Paul is concentrated on the west end of the city, close to Minneapolis?
»» Submitted by mnspeak at 4:29 PM on December 13



That's very bourgeois - congrats again to sophisticated, worldly Minneapolis.
»» Submitted by Henry Hormann at 4:50 PM on December 13



Rename St. Paul East Minneapolis
»» Submitted by »»» fpolaris at 5:03 PM on December 13



I agree with jderusha, funniest thread in a long while. I especially love
St Paul: Eventually you'll have to

I have to go there for a concert this saturday

:(
»» Submitted by »»» fpolaris at 5:04 PM on December 13



St Paul: At least we're not Maplegrove! (Sorry Jason...)

St Paul: We claim Charles Schultz despite the fact he despised the place.

St Paul: It's ghost town early Saturday mornings!
»» Submitted by »»» DouglasG at 5:10 PM on December 13



St. Paul: Not the pretentious one.

fpolaris-I think you mean "West Minneapolis." We have a reputation to uphold over here.
»» Submitted by »»» Connor at 7:51 PM on December 13



Someone is still left at the Pioneer Press who reads MNspeak. Congrats to those MNspeakers whose comments where selected by the nameless MSM type.
»» Submitted by »»» alamn at 7:42 AM on December 14



My mistake. The MSM type has a name: Laura Yuen

My apologies, Ms. Yuen. Glad you enjoy our humble little forum. Come visit us anytime.
»» Submitted by »»» alamn at 8:16 AM on December 14



How 'bout:

St. Paul: Home of the Easter Bunny Ban?
»» Submitted by not from here at 11:10 AM on December 14



St Paul--Shallow fools who need slogans are freezing their asses off at a lifestyle center. Everyone welcome
»» Submitted by phil at 11:25 AM on December 14



Sweet! two of mine got put up in the pipress! I'm on my way to anonymous internet noteriety now!
»» Submitted by Sloganopolis at 12:14 PM on December 14



"Bring Money"
»» Submitted by »»» whatnow at 2:53 PM on December 14



St. Paul: Classical sophistication with a twist of lime
»» Submitted by »»» milkin.c at 3:29 PM on December 14



With the Cathedral & the Capitol and all the churches, and hospitals named after Saints
Why not the Saintly City

Better than the EVIL CITY MPLS.
»» Submitted by CCMEASTON at 5:06 PM on December 14



"You don't have to rob St. Peter to play St. Paul!"
"You say COLD like it's a bad thing!"
"Much more accomodating than Minneapolis. Just ask Dillinger, and Ma Barker, and..."
»» Submitted by claptonian at 1:26 AM on December 15



Medallion City (Get more sponsors for the medallion and raise the prize money, or offer a larger prize for people who register from out of town and find the medallion).

And, Saint Paul cannot be south of East Saint Paul. There is no East St Paul, unless you are referring to the town in Manitoba, Canada.
»» Submitted by J Arch at 5:25 AM on December 15



St Paul--the evil twin.
»» Submitted by Laura Llindholm at 8:42 AM on December 15



St Paul a Capital idea!
»» Submitted by Tom Hove at 9:36 AM on December 15



Surprised nobody borrowed mine:

St. Paul - The hardest luck saint of them all.
»» Submitted by CFinn at 11:23 AM on December 15



Saint Paul: You have to wake up somewhere.
Saint Paul: Where you don't have to be cool.
Saint Paul: When we were your age we thought the same thing.
Saint Paul: When you're ready to settle down.
Saint Paul: Try a murder someplace new!
Saint Paul: If you can't be in the city you love...
Saint Paul: In bed by eight is great!
Saint Paul: You can still get to Minneapolis, even if you live here.


»» Submitted by »»» jmullan at 12:40 PM on December 15



There is no "East St. Paul", but there very defintitely is "east" St. Paul, also know as the Eastside, or Phalen-corridor, or perhaps Payne Ave. Also known as the land that is cannot be reached from anywhere else. Well, at least it was until the recently built the Phalen extension and 35E exit.

There are several neighborhoods in St. Paul that are very tricky to get to unless you know exactly how to get there. Like the Indian Mounds Park neighborhood. Little lands that time forgot.
»» Submitted by Saloth Sar at 5:27 PM on December 15



St. Paul offers the Big City environment, with a small town atmosphere.

(Now if St. Paul could at least open there businesses up on weekends)
»» Submitted by »»» go4girl at 5:34 PM on December 15



St Paul: Our downtown has buildings!
Minneapolis: Surface parking lots downtown are sexy!

St Paul: City of mystery and romance.
Minneapolis: A cold old broad.

St Paul: Tree-lined streets and ample parks.
Minneapolis: Trash-filled streets and ample lots to park.
»» Submitted by »»» Toring at 9:47 PM on December 16



St. Paul: A great place for a weekday breakfast

I think maybe St. Paul is the Boston of the Midwest because of the streets. designed by drunken Irish with no clear direction or logical name. Plus there's the prostitutes
»» Submitted by Dik at 1:45 PM on December 19



St. Paul: If you get drunk in a city and no ones around to witness it...
»» Submitted by colonel_aaron at 7:40 AM on December 20



For the people who never leave Minneapolis here is a guide. West St. Paul, North St. Paul and South St. Paul are there own cities and not part of St. Paul. West St. Paul is actually south of St. Paul. South St. Paul is south east and North St. Paul is North East. East St. Paul is actually part of St. Paul but is called East St. Paul becuase it is east of the river even though it is more north.
»» Submitted by KC at 5:08 PM on December 26



SaintYESplease!!
»» Submitted by Another Thune at 11:29 PM on February 7



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