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Mary Lucia and Marsh

Posted April 21, 2008

In Stephen Marsh's recent "Morning After" column, he discussed the Current's Fakebook series, with some flattering words ("For the last couple of years, Fakebook has been the perfectly programmed series, bringing in writers who appeal to the ideal Current listener, the literate indie-rock lover."), but some not-so-flattering words about it's host, Mary Lucia: Basically, she has a conventional sense of humor that works great when she's plowing through a list of questions intended to shake something novel out of a guitar player. But put her in front of an intellectual with impeccable comic timing, and Lucia comes off as rote. His comments have caused a bit of a stink, as they often do.

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66 Comments:


Is it a surprise that Steve Marsh wrote something stupid? He is after all the person who intimated that the new Tapes 'n Tapes album is as good as Let It Be. People, stop paying attention to him and hope he goes away
»» Submitted by puzzler at 3:45 PM on April 21



He articulated his points pretty well in the story. What, specifically, do you think was stupid about them?
»» Submitted by »»» msparber at 3:47 PM on April 21



Fuck you, Westerberg.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 3:53 PM on April 21



Props on the "Stephen" though, Max. Love that. Reminds me of Mrs. Flaspeter.

That's a good thing.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:01 PM on April 21



I don't believe Marsh ever answered my question (in some arts thread about the Tapes n Tapes) about what band he would go gay for. Inquiring minds need to know.
»» Submitted by »»» aliecat at 4:14 PM on April 21



"Gus Triandos."

Noel, Liam, an eight ball and a bottle of Johnson's & Johnson's. And maybe Kate Moss? Or is that cheating?

Srsly, nobody has any thoughts on Mary Lucia? There's no MNSpeak, Mary Lucia overlap? I refuse to believe that. Is everybody suntanning already?


»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:18 PM on April 21



Vegas odds: 3-1 that Lucia kicks Marsh's ass and takes his milk money in a playground brawl.
»» Submitted by »»» JACC at 4:28 PM on April 21



Steve: lay off the people that are actually trying to make this city a better place.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 4:30 PM on April 21



I read somewhere that people don't listen to the Current anymore. Maybe it was here.
»» Submitted by »»» crz at 4:30 PM on April 21



Mark Mallman has spoken for us already:


»» Submitted by »»» chuck at 4:31 PM on April 21



lighten up. marsh is funny sometimes. i dont always agree with him, but he's worth a laugh.
»» Submitted by danny_m at 4:31 PM on April 21



Oh, easy there, JD. Sanctimony is like the anchor desk: it doesn't suit you.

Are you sure you read the whole thing? If Mary would just listen to me, St. Paul would have the perfect book event. We're so close!
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:38 PM on April 21



It sucks to ruin jokes by having to explain them. Maybe if you read the comments on your MSP entry, you'd see that I was quoting.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 4:39 PM on April 21



If Mary would just listen to me
She probably stopped listening after you called her dumb.
»» Submitted by »»» JACC at 4:40 PM on April 21



Jason, jokes relly only get better once they're explained.

(that's what I keep telling myself)
»» Submitted by »»» JACC at 4:42 PM on April 21



I was joking back, dude. We were "riffing." Now you fucked it all up. What's going to happen when Rosen throws it back to you? Things move a lot faster at 10pm, man.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:42 PM on April 21



@Stevemarsh/JDerusha, keep up your bickering. I think this has all the makings of a CJ scoop!
»» Submitted by »»» Bixby at 4:43 PM on April 21



PLEASE! Does anyone take Marsh seriously? Is he even relevant anymore? He's talking about Oasis being his favorite band, for christ sakes. How old is this guy? He writes this shit just to perpetuate his image; if he started being a grown up nobody would notice him.
»» Submitted by a. people at 4:43 PM on April 21



no, marsh -- jd was totally playing along and moved it to a meta level, now you egged it all up! jesus people, if you would just show up at rehearsal...
»» Submitted by »»» chuck at 4:44 PM on April 21



Evidently, JACC doesn't have much experience with women.

Stopped listening after I called her dumb. Listen, did you skip grade school or what? How did you learn how to use the internet after such terrible home schooling?
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:44 PM on April 21



u guys fall for it every time when marsh says/does something that makes you mad. my mom always told me to just ignore boys that i don't like.
»» Submitted by no wonder at 4:47 PM on April 21



Listen, Paul, this "puzzler" and "a.people" gambit is just silly at this point. I'm not Ryan Adams. I'm not going to punch you in the mouth or something. Besides, this is all happening on a screen.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:48 PM on April 21



And I bet you listened to mommy; didn't you, you little no wonder you. What did mommy say about anonymous screen names?

Morons!

Where's scrote? Bring in the bullpen. I'm done.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:49 PM on April 21



In conclusion, you all suck.
»» Submitted by »»» teucer at 4:50 PM on April 21



I suck. I'm sorry. I got messed up worshipping the genius of this comment by marsh: Sanctimony is like the anchor desk: it doesn't suit you. One of the best put-downs I've ever had thrown at me.

Damn it. Now I'm complimenting the insult. What's wrong with me?
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 4:50 PM on April 21



Full of himself @stevemarsh pontificates "I mean, maybe she hasnt seen the Stones at Altamont, and maybe shes not a Stanford professor who can quote D.H. Lawrence off the top of her head, but shes been backstage at the Entry when Tommy threw a beer bottle at Bobby. She knows what punk rock is too. She just hasnt written the book on it."

Is that's how you call someone smart?

FYI, I did skip grade school and whenever I wonder about the experience I may have missed I stop by MNspeak for a Marsh quote.




»» Submitted by »»» JACC at 4:51 PM on April 21



Damn it. Now I'm complimenting the insult. What's wrong with me?

Could you answer that one good question? :P

One of the best put-downs I've ever had thrown at me.

Awww...I'll give you a warm fuzzy:

WCCO HR must be terrorists because you're da bomb!
»» Submitted by »»» Bixby at 4:53 PM on April 21



Why did you call Lucia "rote"? I don't see how her interviewing style has anything to do with a medieval stringed instrumentvariably identified with a lyre, lute, or harp.

You should get back to writing about teeth whitening or cosmetic surgery for your little rag for Edina cougars.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 4:53 PM on April 21



Jason, I think you've finally become one of us. And by that I mean them.

JACC, I don't know. I was trying to flip it. Here's how I call somebody stupid though.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:54 PM on April 21



It only took JD three minutes to use google! Looks like he doesn't have to worry about his budget number for awhile.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:55 PM on April 21



I had to google 90% of your review because I didn't know what the hell you were talking about.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 4:57 PM on April 21



@stevemarsh - Speaking of women. Don't you have some hottie you should be tending?

Oh wait.

Stevemarsh knows all about women. He just hasn't written the book on it.

»» Submitted by »»» JACC at 4:59 PM on April 21



Oooh, snap!

Go ahead, I'll wait. It's not new slang though.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 4:59 PM on April 21



Would you guys stop flirting and just kiss?
»» Submitted by Paulie at 4:59 PM on April 21



This is better than Wilmer Valeramma's hit show "Yo Mama"!

And by "hit", I mean "miss".
»» Submitted by »»» Bixby at 5:00 PM on April 21



What are we talking about again? A three-week old review? Lucia?

There was another Fakebook Saturday night with Chuck D and Brother Ali.

Anyone?
»» Submitted by Bob Collins at 5:01 PM on April 21



Damnit, JACC. Don't you know when to sit back and chill with the rest of my greek chorus? Salting my game with the only other name on the board today.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 5:01 PM on April 21



Oh, it's up.

http://msp.blogs.com/themorningafter/2008/04/41908-the-curre.html
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 5:02 PM on April 21



Here, if you're lazy.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 5:02 PM on April 21



What were you drinking while you filed that review?
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 5:06 PM on April 21



Yeah, since when did Marsh ditch the hard stuff for a stale cup of passive aggressive?
»» Submitted by »»» JACC at 5:07 PM on April 21



dude, oasis are awesome.
»» Submitted by danny_m at 5:09 PM on April 21



OK, so now what is the point, here? That reviewers are supposed to like everything the audience likes or hate everything the audience hates. It's just one person's opinion, right?

In theory -- and, man, this really IS theory -- it's supposed to lead to an intelligent conversation about the salient points.

I just read last week... somewhere (Romanesko?) that arts reviewers are dropping like flies. Is it because we've become accusomed in discourse now where we don't consider other views... that we only want to be exposed to views that match our own?

I'm sorry if this is off topic but I couldn't really figure out what the topic is.
»» Submitted by Bob Collins at 5:10 PM on April 21



OK, so now what is the point, here?
Certain people, that shall remain unnamed, think that Steve Marsh should be running the Fakebook series.
»» Submitted by Some Guy at 5:22 PM on April 21



God help us all.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 5:24 PM on April 21



Yeah, okay Marsh, there's only one person out here in the world who thinks you're as dated and worn as an old dollar bill. You try too hard- so hard- to be current and relevant, and you just look silly. Jealous of people who get more attention?

Personally, I always never liked your writing, so I don't give a shit how you "review" anything.


»» Submitted by a. people at 5:25 PM on April 21



Hmm. I thought the very raison d'etre of a critic was to be, you know, critical.
»» Submitted by »»» mjm at 5:50 PM on April 21



Just now reading the two Marsh columns and they're brilliant. I wish I could be as funny disagreeing.

Only quibble, Steve: I'm pretty sure Greil used that Lenin quote to say he wasn't like Lenin, rather than that he was.
»» Submitted by Pete Scholtes at 6:22 PM on April 21



He doesn't like beer?
»» Submitted by j at 6:41 PM on April 21



Roughly 30% of the comments thus far as Marsh's ... perhaps he should lay down his ego and step away from the keyboard for awhile ... silly attention whore ...
»» Submitted by (mnspeak cult wannabe.) at 6:45 PM on April 21



He doesn't like beer?

He likes bourbon. Or Campari. Or both -- he drinks experimentally.
»» Submitted by »»» mjm at 7:00 PM on April 21



My bartender is responsible for roughly 1% of the comments on here.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 7:16 PM on April 21



Sorry y'all. You're on your own. I have a blonde to attend to. And I am wound up after a Forgetting Sarah Marshall/Mnspeak/Gossip Girl tripleheader!
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 7:49 PM on April 21



I'd long thought that the Strib's CJ was the Twin Cities' most obnoxious columnist, but Marsh has upstaged her in that regard. Having stated that, I'll say no more; absolutely don't want to feed his attention-craving addiction anymore than I already have here. (Anyway, Sparber seems to have an unlimited supply of willingness to publicize his pal Steve, so here at MNSpeak surely there'll be no shortage of continuing attention devoted to Marsh's pathetic antics.)
»» Submitted by Horseshoe at 7:55 PM on April 21



That's true. I plan to continue MnSpeak's devotion to Marsh's pathetic antics.
»» Submitted by »»» msparber at 8:01 PM on April 21



The Rat told me that if you're gonna ignore someone, you shouldn't tell them you're ignoring them.
»» Submitted by »»» aliecat at 8:44 PM on April 21



Who is Steve Marsh, besides an insecure asshole? Never heard of him.
»» Submitted by MplsStP Music Fan at 1:26 PM on April 22



There is a link above to his story and blog. Go ahead and click on it. Then you will know who he is.

Usually, it's good form to click on the links before you comment.
»» Submitted by »»» msparber at 1:28 PM on April 22



My husband, 13 year old kid, and I went to Saturday's Fakebook show.

In the words of my bored and cynical kid "it was awesome". We loved all of it - listening to Chuck talk about - oh, about anything - and Brother Ali and Slug put on a great show. well worth the price of admission.

»» Submitted by linda Miller at 5:18 PM on April 22



FYI, Mary Lucia just won City Page Reader's Choice (FM Personality)
»» Submitted by Bob Collins at 5:50 PM on April 22



Bob, for some reason, only part of your News Cut URL shows up with your name... you should just register.
»» Submitted by »»» jderusha at 6:02 PM on April 22



Mary Lucia just won City Page Reader's Choice (FM Personality)

Personally I like Mary Lucia, however many of the 'Readers' Choice' awards handed out by the City Pages end up being pretty awful picks.
»» Submitted by JC65 at 6:05 PM on April 22



//Bob, for some reason, only part of your News Cut URL shows up with your name...

I did. Unfortunately, MNSpeak has a very lame -- and very short -- character limit on the field so I didn't notice it. I've "tinyURLed" it instead.
»» Submitted by »»» bcollins at 6:09 PM on April 22



Eichten wuz robbed.
»» Submitted by stevemarsh at 7:32 PM on April 22



sorry i missed this one. In the Sonoran Desert observing Passover & couldn't get a signal. i'm betting marsh's original critic drives a subaru...or even worse, a bike. just sayin'.
»» Submitted by grote at 7:41 PM on April 22



sorry i missed this one. In the Sonoran Desert observing Passover & couldn't get a signal.

Wait, you're black?!
»» Submitted by »»» Bixby at 7:49 PM on April 22



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