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MN Independent: Republicans reinvent teh Interwebs, employ 733t haxors
MinnPost: Voters realize what porn surfers have known for years -- Playboy is irrelevant
Star Tribune: MPD's dirty laundry to be aired tonight
The Republican Eagle: Reducing emissions is like...hard...and stuff.
Reducing emissions is hard. But as JFK said about going to the moon:
"...we choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too."
Today is Bob's Presidential quotes day on MNspeak.
Maybe we wouldn't be in this mess if JFK had focused on reducing emissions rather than going to the moon. Sure the Russians would have all the moon rocks and whatever else we got out of that deal, but we wouldn't have a giant fricking hole in the ozone layer to deal with.
Camelot my ass.
What was the point of the MN Independent article? The RNC will use computers. And?!?!
"At first glance, their website looks hastily thrown together,"
But not as hastily thrown together as that article was.
What was the point of the MN Independent article?
Using that sweet image of a tv connected to an apple II.
I think the point was that the RNC committee is talking about using a lot of tech to involve the public in the RNC, but we aren't seeing a whole lot of results yet.
Screw you Miller. Our strategic alliance with the moon men has kept the Martians from invading for the last 40 years.
but we wouldn't have a giant fricking hole in the ozone layer to deal with.
Yeah, it's JFK's fault.
Simplemindedly hilarious.
I think the point was that the RNC committee is talking about using a lot of tech to involve the public in the RNC, but we aren't seeing a whole lot of results yet.
Well if they talk it, it makes sense, but if they actually invest the money and do it, it seems like a colossal waste of money. The core of independent voters mostly rely upon traditional media than new and emerging media.
Well if they talk it, it makes sense, but if they actually invest the money and do it, it seems like a colossal waste of money. The core of independent voters mostly rely upon traditional media than new and emerging media.
I think there are any number of people, myself included, who would argue that last point with you. But regardless, the conventions are colossal wastes of money. Period. It has been decades since anything of substance occurred at a national political convention. Luckily, MSP gets to reap the benefits of this one, so it's not all bad.
You can't get to the moon without going through the ozone layer. Ergo, a hole must be created. Case closed.
Miller: "Camelot my ass."
Like the set for the Moon landing itself; "it's only a model."
Luckily, MSP gets to reap the benefits of this one, so it's not all bad.
There are scores of people, myself included, that will argue this point.
It's my understanding that cities hosting political conventions lose money.
"it's only a model."
Shhh!!!
Um, the GOP is holding a YouTube contest for the convention. A YOUTUBE CONTEST, PEOPLE!
It's my understanding that cities hosting political conventions lose money.
It's highly dependent on the structure of the city and how well it's planned. That said -- Boston, the example used in the article you linked to, actually still netted about 15 million after costs were factored in. And that was before offsetting donations and funds were applied. Boston was poorly planned as well. Assuming MSP manages to avoid shutting down its main transportation arteries, we ought to stay nicely in the black.
the early estimates were that the cities would net over $50,000,000.00 from the RNC...they are probably counting the long-term marketing impact
I'd imagine so. Especially given the marketing push behind the "More to Life" campaign.
hi, I have to jump in here in boston's defense (kinda)
well, actually, rather than being poorly-planned, large portions of the city simply weren't planned. Notable exceptions are back bay and other landfill areas of town (as well as its lovely park system). Really, though, the downtown area where the convention was held is a giant hodge-podge with so many layers of development/infrastructure built on top of one another that of course it looks like a mess.
but a beautiful mess!
besides, we don't even need a national political convention to bring the TC metro area all sorts of transportation woes. we have a cruddy underfunded public transit system, I'm pretty sure almost every part of 35W through the metro is under some sort of construction right now (not to mention a lot of stuff going on on 35E and other highways lately), and, well, traffic doesn't even flow that well without the construction.
(ps, before you even start in, no, I will not "go back to boston," because I quite enjoy living here and want to help improve things--but the first stage of that is identifying problems and bitching about them until everyone is pissed enough to force the government to spend some money).
(ps, before you even start in, no, I will not "go back to boston," because I quite enjoy living here ...
Wasn't it not too long ago, that you were saying you were out of here as soon as you put in enough chits to move on up in the corporate world (or on to grad school)?
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem if you've decided that this would be a fine place to make your home, I'm just asking if this isn't a change in position/attitude.
it's a bit of a change. I hadn't planned to leave for a while anyway, and now maybe I'll stick around if possible.
You make my point for me, Wayno. Boston just ain't a good place to hold this sort of event. Now, I'll grant you that MSP has some serious transit issues, but I think it'll weather the storm slightly better, especially being in Saint Paul, than Boston did.
And certainly more profitably.
Does Boston have bronze "Peanuts" figures in ITS parks? No? Case closed.
Hey, this event may help shape American history -- what historical event ever happened in Boston?!?
Does Boston have bronze "Peanuts" figures in ITS parks? No? Case closed.
I thought they were made of some kind of plastic.
The originals were fiberglass, but we also have permanent bronzes. For confirmation of this fact, there is no better source than the Salt Lake City Deseret News.
Hey, this event may help shape American history -- what historical event ever happened in Boston?!?
Well we annexed Hawaii from there, thus making honeymoons moderately cheaper for Americans everywhere.
I think there was something about tea, too, but I don't understand what sitting around sipping the stuff and eating crumpets really did for america other than make us look like sissies for a while.
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