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Living In Oblivion

You take the good, you take the bad, you them them both, and there you have... the suburbs! In this open thread, we pose a seemingly simple question: What's your favorite Twin Cities suburb? Seriously, think it over, which burb do you visit most, which bedroom community would you not mind being stranded in? Make your case in the comments.

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Confession: I'm competely stealing this thread idea from my friend Simon, who, true story, revealed it over pizza at Punch after seeing Meldious Owl and Brother & Sister play at the St. Louis Park Water Park. Great fun. Hopefully, he'll reveal his fave.

Northeast.

Oh, what's that you say? Nevermind, I guess I have no favorite suburb.

apple valley.
sure, bush bumper stickers and big box stores are everywhere, but we also got mn zoo concerts, the treehuggin' 'school of environmental studies," parks in almost every neighborhood, a downtown and some locally-owned businesses.

White Bear Lake. Does that count as a suburb? A few nice places to get a drink right in "downtown" WBL such as Washington Square. A lot of stuff to do around town and a lot of locally owned businesses. But the whole "White Bear" pride gets to me after awhile when in a span of 5 minutes you've seen 50 people with a stone White Bear in their garden landscaping or a White Bear sticker on their car.

If I were to vote for worst I'd say Maple Grove or Woodbury. Suburbia at it's worst, and both of those suburbs are becoming even more suburban as we speak. Runner up for worst: Burnsville. I hate that fucking place.

Downtown Wayzata is very pretty with the lake and all, but it's crawling with rich white assholes. I think I could live in St. Louis Park, Golden Valley or Hopkins -- all older and more established, with grown trees and such, and still close to Minneapolis. Hopkins has a charming downtown.

Not Maplewood, Pat? ;)

I like Roseville - it doesn't have a downtown to speak of, but it's got some beautiful lakes that aren't as crowded as the Harriet/Calhoun/Isles corridor, awesome wildlife sanctuary, and great running in Roseville Central Park. Easy access to downtown and NE as well.

I enjoyed growing up in Richfield, being so close to Lake Harriet and Nokomis, and with enough diversity to stay sane. And we were one of the few (only?) suburbs to have kept the 612 area code!

I also didn't mind the Hopkins, Minnetonka, and St. Louis Park area. Old enough to have trees and some old houses, but new enough to have good schools.

West St. Paul is another area that I just started spending some time in. Robert St is nice because it has everything. Tiny Mexican restaurants and small shops all the way to the once old school Target, Cubs, and Menards. Too bad they are ruining it with a new Walmart and Home Depot, and updated Super Targets and Menards

My Top Four:

1. St. Paul. Turf Club + Big V's. Also, there are some pretty good restaurants on University Ave, and I once spent a great deal of time at Snelling & Grand and in The Rocking East Side. Nice place. Just east of Minneapolis. Check it out.

2. St. Louis Park. Mainly because of that big-ass bowling alley. Also, I understand they have taken steps that will allow me to carry things in the out of doors if I ever convert to orthodox Judaism.

3. Brooklyn Park / Brooklyn Center. Whichever suburb has that movie thater at the intersection of 94 and 694.

4. Edina / Richfield. Sometimes I am in these cities and think I am still in South Minneapolis. WTF is Convention Grill, anyway? Someone should build a wall.

Whoa, Saint Paul is a suburb?

Fargo.

Clarification - the eruv in SLP would be for shabbos. It would not, as far as I know, be of any benefit to me the rest of the week. Nonetheless, it is pretty rad.

What Northeaster wouldn't mind being stranded in Columbia Heights?

Whats so great about Northeast??

I vote for Hilltop the trailer park/incorporated town in the middle of Columbia Heights, just for their refusal to be absorbed by CH.

As a Bloomington son, I'll put in a good word for it.
The Minnesota River runs along the whole of the Bloomington's southern border, providing miles and miles of hiking and mountain biking and time wasting in the wooded area along its banks. Various offshoot watersheds and the Normandale/Hyland/Bush lakes area provide for every outdoor activity except waterskiing and mountain climbing. I grew up wandering around and in Nine Mile Creek.
There are several nice city parks -- Dred Scott, Moir Park (now strangely called Central Park), Penn Lake, Valley View, etc. -- dotted throughout the city. And the parks department does a good job in the summer of putting on programs for kids and seniors and anyone else that is easily entertained.
Nightlife? Not so much beyond the MOA. Charlie's and Zeke's and David Fong's probably won't win a spot in anyone's heart. There are a handful of completely hidden good places to eat (you get big props if you know where Shantytown is) but they are admittedly cheap and rundown. And any non-MOA-related arts are likely to be on the high school or community college level (go Bears!). But there are worse places to be -- Shakopee, for example.

I have to second the Roseville vote. I was anti-burbs for many years until we found a house in Roseville. It is close to both downtowns and has great parks - a great balance.

bloomington, for sure. spearing carp along the mn river. now that's minnesota. moir park woods (munchkin land???) or the woods behind the gardens where we used to roll many a kegger. mud mound. hyland is fantastic. bike trails. although the ski jumps and the south and west sides of bush lake are totally developed now. we used to swim on the southwest side of the lake after dark. naked. it was called The Point.

the area near 494 and 35W offers housing that truly addresses all phases of the life cycle as city developers like to say. shopping and a new waterpark on the strip. what more could you want?

Shantytown is good. As is David Fong's.

But my favorite Bloomington hangout was easily Saints Roller Rink out by Budget Power! Man, I miss that place.

You know that Jonathan Richman song "I Love the City but I Love the Country Too"?

Well in Golden Valley, we're surrounded by trees, with deer in nearby Theodore Wirth Park and a clean beach where geese sit along the water's edge at night. We're also exactly eight minutes from downtown Minneapolis (and I won't go a mile over the speed limit on Glenwood). Nice public library, too.

Me and Mrs. Lungs lived in Columbia Heights for a number of years (near 40th & University), I cast my vote with Alex for CH.

Why: we could (and did) walk to church, the A & W (closed), City Hall, the muni liquor stor (closed), Dicks and the 500 Club bars (still open, thank God), the library, a pool hall , a good place to eat (Dragon House).

While some great places are gone, the Heights Theater is better than ever, as is the DQ, a new cafe, and the Star Bar.

Make it smokefree and affordable, and we would be back in a heartbeat!

I gotta vote for St Louis Park. Basically, for its proximity to Minneapolis, and its old school feel. And because, of all the places I've lived in town, I've spent the most time there.

I want to like Columbia Heights, but I've never actually lived there or spent much time there, so I couldn't really say.

And, for the record, I furking hate Plymouth. Ugh.

How to make this MNspeak visitor happy:

1 friggin day w/o reading about how great the Northeast or Grumpy's NE are.

Yes, St. Louis Park blows my mind. Situated right next to Rextown, it has recreation -- a very good water park, two good bowling alleys, a roller rink, a kickball league, and a long, scenic bike-trail circuit that starts by Lake Calhoun and ends in downtown Mpls. It has lots of discount shopping -- Opitz, Slumberland Clearance Outlet, Half Price Books. And it has all the big boxes you'd ever want: Two Targets, Costco, Micro Center, and the forlorn Knollwood Mall, where I get 80% of my clothes, sadly (Kohl's, TJ Maxx, DSW).

The housing stock is kind of '50s cookie-cutter, but for every two geniuses who think they were brilliant to buy in Northeast, there's someone doing at least as well in the SLP. Go Orioles!

Any suburb with smoking is a suburb for me. Bloomington can implode for all I care. I wouldn't spend a dime there out of a stolen wallet. I like Columbia Heights. Especially since the creepy guy above who talks about his lungs as if they were people won't be there. Last thing I need is to be sitting in a bar having a smoke and a beer, and see him and his sad looking lungs glumming up the place.

StLP represent.

i'd also vouch for Golden Valley and the St. Antony area as well.

SLP all the way and not just cuz I live here. Actually I like Hopkins too. SLP has a lotta' heart for a 'burb.

I vote for SLP as well. Gotta love the Jews with that great deli! Love the bowling alley, Monterey Park, all of it. Plus, it's close to DT Mnpls with out all the hassle of actually living there. Close runner up? I have none, SLP is the only suburb I'd live in.

White Bear Lake!! No question. There, when you're at "the lake" everyone knows where you're talking about. (Unless, of course, you're referring to Bald Eagle, or Goose, or what's that strip across White Bear Avenue from WBL?)

I like New Brighton, (and Hwy 88 in particular), because it's like being in Mpls/St Paul thirty plus years ago!

(when I was minus the thirty plus years old)

the forlorn Knollwood Mall

I was just there this past weekend and thought to myself how it's kind of a sad little mall. Yet I go to that TJ Maxx, Kohl's, Old Nazy, DSW, and that Cub Foods all the time. As an added bonus, the BP station across Hwy 7 has the cheapest gas I've seen around.

Green Bay.

Okay Third on Roseville But I prefer Shoreview, I pretty much consider the whole roseville/shoreview/little canada/vadnais/north oaks/wbl/gem lake area as just one city? They are all similar and have tons of lakes that hardly anybody goes to. Why go up north when you live in Shoreview area.

We are planning on some reunion typea stuff at the Roller Gardens... Family Style... Email us if any of you MINNESNOWTANS are interested... kelley01@visi.com

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